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Foreclosures… Do you agree with me?

February 17th, 2008 at 09:01 pm

*I have edited this post for clarity*

I’ve had this on my mind for weeks now. All this talk about the “hope” or “lifeline” plans to help homeowners and the stimulus checks to boast the economy has me going crazy!

First the checks. There are so many flaws with this mass amount of cash being flushed into the hands of America. A very large percentage of people that responded to various polls said that they would not spend it, that they would indeed save it or use it to pay off bills. Now I am all for saving and paying off bills with extra money, but how will this help the economy? It was explained that the money would help the economy by allowing people to splurge and buy more consumables… therefore giving the economy a boost with this explosion of cash. Hmmm, who really thought that this would work. Aren’t we facing a recession (if we aren’t already in one) partly because people are scared to spent?

Second, the “miracle programs” that are going to save homeowners from loosing their homes. What a load of crap they are serving. Without getting into my personal thoughts on how this housing mess started, or whose fault it is, the reality is that there is a problem and it needs to be solved as cleanly as possible. The truth is that these programs were created with and by the lenders. They help the lenders… oh and a very, very, very small percentage of the homeowner they “claim” to help. The paperwork alone that the homeowners have to fill out is almost impossible to complete and the end result is almost always going to be frustration on the homeowners part. My favorite part is that you have to be at least 60 days late but not more than 90 days late. I want to know how many homeowner are current on their mortgage payments, but are maxing out all their credit cards and living in poverty levels just to pay their mortgage and minimum payments on their credit cards. In order to qualify they would need to let their mortgage go late. If they did that then their credit scores will tank, making their insurance payments higher and triggering “universal default” on all their credit cards… and then what if they still don’t qualify for the mortgage rate reduction or other “miracle programs”? Oh and let’s not forget the late payments fees on their mortgages! There are so many restrictions to these programs, and once again it is a “reactive” solution as opposed to a proactive solution. Pretty much it offers to possibly help the ones that are already in deep trouble but offers nothing to the ones that could easily be saved before it reaches emergency status. Why not help them both? Both are deserving, if only to help the whole countries economy.

I’m one that always says that if you are going to complain about a problem you better have a suggestion for a solution. I will admit that I do not have all of the answers for this problem, but I do have a few suggestions.

1. Don’t send out the checks. Our government does not have money to be sending out in hopes that it stimulates the economy. What part of “don’t spent what you don’t have” are we missing? If I thought it would work it might be a good idea, but it most likely won’t and then were will we be? More in debt. Let’s spend this money on something that will really help.

2. Make a real plan to help homeowners keep their houses. Ask a large amount of homeowners what it will take to help them save their houses. Is it a lower rate, making their loans into 40 or 50 year loans, putting anything in the rears onto the end of the loan, or all 3 or different things? It’s hard for those of us that are not in the position of loosing our homes to know what these homeowners really need. I can only imagine how “hard” it was for the writers of this plan to “know” what would help the HOMEOWNERS, when they just collected a HUGE cash bonus!

3. Here’s the kicker. Use the money that was to be sent out in checks to the masses as bonuses to the lenders when they save a person from foreclosure. Offer assistance to all homeowners who need it. Limit the eligibility to homeowners that are owner occupied, not just those with owner occupied loans, conventional, non-conventional, prime or sub-prime, arm or not loans. Offer assistance to all home owners that actually live in the property regardless of the type of loan they have.

Possible solutions for owner occupied properties include:
- rate cap of 6% or even 7% (there is still lot’s of profit in those numbers) for 5-10 years
- you do not have to be late to qualify
- no financial qualifying, no forms, or berating by lenders. You already qualified to purchase the property. You want to save it, and you live there. That’s enough “qualifying”. This will greatly reduce the amount of REO’s (bank owned properties) and will help stabilize the real estate market.
- you are “kicked out” of the program if you ever go 90 days late and foreclosure proceedings can resume exactly where they where when you entered (if you were late).
- the program participation will not be noted on your credit report. It is very important that the homeowners credit is not negatively impacted or we will need another program to save homeowners from credit card and loan “universal default” or raising rates on insurance and other credit score driven products. There is already a credit crunch, let’s not add to it.

Sorry investors (I’m one too) but we need to save the houses we actually have owners living in… can’t ask for too much, but I did include the provision if you choose to move into a prior investment property… this could help!

Lastly, we need to remember that this needs to be an incentive based program to the lenders. The lenders are in it for money, it’s a business. It would be un-American and down right illegal to force lenders to do any of this. The choice must be theirs to make and we need to be able to reward them financially for doing this. We could use the money from the checks and offer tax incentives to encourage their participation. They would need to calculate if it would be better for them to take the loss from a house through foreclosure or short sale, or the loss associated with offering a lower interest rate and lower payment and a longer return on their money. The pinch will be felt hardest by the private money lenders than the large corporations. It might be a huge loss for the lenders today, but with a stabilizing real estate market they can get the REO’s off their books and get back to lending money like they are supposed too! For the homeowners, they would win today and in the future.

*Added-

POINT 1. I wrote this from the point that the government had decided that they will be offering some sort of assistance and that not offering assistance was not an option. I felt that if they were set on offering "help" than these were my thoughts on the help. Not offering help at all was something I actually thought *might* be a better option (I would need to think that through more), but I wrote this from the view of it's already going to happen, so at least it should be done in the best possible way.

POINT 2. By no paperwork I am speaking of the typical qualifying paperwork, i.e.. bank statements, tax returns and the loan application. NOT the disclosures. Disclosures ABSOLUTELY must still be provided. My feelings were that the borrower already qualified for the loan and that it's obvious that the borrower now can't make the payments regardless of what the paperwork will show. At this point if the borrower is wanting to save the home than who cares about the qualifying paperwork. It would be great for everyone if they could save their home, including the borrower, lender and the local real estate market. By not having to do the qualifying paperwork more borrowers will be able to save their home. Again all disclosures must still be completed and signed. Disclosures will state the terms of the loan modification and the borrower must read, sign and more importantly understand the terms.

POINT 3. I removed any reference to the war. It was not my intention to start a dialog about the war. I mentioned the war as a reason as to why the government can not afford to throw away money. I understand that the war also creates money via jobs and I also want all of our soldiers back. I am not against the war. I am not "for" our soldiers being gone for so long. I am not "for" the huge amount of money we are spending there. I am not "for" a specific withdrawal date as I fear it would put our soldiers in more danger and create a new threat. Thank you for all the emails requesting my view on the war. I hope I confused you even more with these comments. I do not feel more view of the war is warranted in regards to my very strong view on personal finance.

POINT 4. Again, I am very pleased that this post got people thinking. I really do appreciate everyone's views, and I want to thank you all for reading my blog. Please keep the comments coming.

11 Responses to “Foreclosures… Do you agree with me?”

  1. Lost in debt Says:

    I like your thoughts and ideas. I too say keep the checks ... as a lender, I wish we could just reduce peoples rates without all that nasty paperwork, unfortunately, the government regulates the lender and requires the paperwork and it is all for the protection of the consumer.

  2. Ima saver Says:

    You have some great ideas, run for president!! I will vote for you.!!

  3. ceejay74 Says:

    These are great points. I also think the government should make more of an effort to educate people about finances and frugality. Couldn't they use that money to make public service announcements, a free online course, or give money to local governments to host lectures and classes? The saddest thing about all the foreclosures is that many people could prevent theirs if they only knew how to cut back expenses. There's an emotional value attached to material things in this country, but there's also just ignorance about handling money. I don't blame people in foreclosure situations because that could've been me a year or so ago. I see a few scattered attempts to lift the blinders from people's eyes, but overall the messages out there in the media are just feeding the disease of our nation.

  4. Sami Says:



    Sorry, I don't feel sorry for people who are in foreclosure due to THEIR stupidity.

    By that I mean either people who simply had to have a house they couldn't afford so they had to take out an adjustable rate mortgage. Or people whose credit is lousy and they had to take out an ARM loan.

    It all boils down to don't buy something you can't afford!

  5. noexcusebudget Says:

    Thanks for the comments. I really feel strong about the importance of this issue.

    "lost in debt" I should have explained my paperwork idea better. I absolutely think that the loan modification paperwork is need. Homeowners must be provided detailed paperwork about the modification of their loan, this is and should be mandated by the goverment. My plan would eliminate the qualification paperwork only, and that too would be initiated by the goverment. I believe that the qualification paperwork is unnecessary as long as you fit into the outlined qualification terms, pretty much all owner occupied properties. The qualification paperwork is simply a means for lenders to deny the homeowners help.

    "Ima" Thanks... but I think I'll keep my day job!

    "Ceejay74" Agreed, education is needed.

  6. noexcusebudget Says:

    Sami, you have a very valid point, one that is shared by many. I feel at this point that the housing situation is past the point of pointing blame. It is having an effect on everyone and needs to be dealt with ASAP! We need real solutions that will ultimately benefit everyone including the "responsible"... a better economy and house market.

    I too feel that you shouldn't spend what you don't have...
    (see the below paragraph from my post)
    "1. Don’t send out the checks. I don’t have to tell anyone how expensive this war is. It is very expensive and our government does not have money to be sending out in hopes that it stimulates the economy. What part of “don’t spent what you don’t have” are we missing?"

  7. ceejay74 Says:

    I think there's more than stupidity going on; when I look at a lot of people drowning in debt, they're not selfish or mean or stupid, but they have the means right in front of them to fix their own problem and they don't even know it. They would use this means if they could see it but they honestly can't.

    Frugality may be just plain common sense, but there are a lot of other psychological and social things that warp people's common sense. The relief on their faces when they finally get it--looking like they just woke up from a nightmare--shows me these aren't willfully stupid people. I just can't muster disgust for such obviously well-meaning but misled people. But I guess I'm a big softie who likes to look for the best in people.

    Sorry Heather, I'll stop hijacking your topic with this sideline. :-)

  8. baselle Says:

    I'm sorry Heather - I believe that both lenders and borrowers have a hand in it, and there shouldn't be any fixes period. The problem is way too big to throw any money at. The only two people I have sympathy for are: a person who actually has skin in the game, namely a buyer who paid 10-20% down, and a saver who is waiting patiently to buy at an appropriate price. If you financed at 103% you don't own, and the wisest thing would be to wake up to the fact and mail the keys to whoever has your mortgage.

  9. Brettcw Says:

    You have some interesting points. Let me point some things out though.
    1) I don't like war and I'd like to see our troops back home. It is costly but who is producing the products used for war (firearms, military vehicles, jets, gear, etc.)? Doesn't that create manufacturing jobs here? (this is not a rhetorical question, i am asking)
    2) the mortgage "crisis" - ADJUSTABLE rate mortgage. If you were willing to take the laon when the APR was LOW, you have to be responsible for paying it back when it's "HIGH". Don't balme lenders, that's capitalism. Too many people think that they are owed something. A lot of people took low rates, but what did they do with all of the money they were saving? The lenders don't want the houses back, they'd rather have the loans paid versus a foreclosure. Thus, they need to work with the borrowers to come up with a feasible way to refinance the existing mortgage contract. And no doubt that the paperwork is a headache but that is because we have become such a litigious society.
    3) Rebate checks - mixed bag there. It's hard to poll the entire populace to get a feel for what they plan to do with their checks. I know a lot of people planning to spend it them but I also have talked to quite a few people that plan to invest it in various ways. In regards to a recession, we are far from a recession. The GDP had to take a hit for 6 consecutive months. The economy is not nearly as bad as some of the media outlets are making it out to be.

    Bottom line is that people need to evaluate where their money goes and use what they have more efficiently. Which is why I look to these forums for ideas on saving money and how to use what I have to my advantage. :-)

  10. noexcusebudget Says:

    Thank you all for your comments. I have edited my post for clarification. I encourage you all to read it again.

    I really do appreciate everyone sharing their thoughts on the subject with me. That is what makes this place so great!

  11. billm950 Says:

    I do not agree with Gov Bailout of Lenders, they were making CRAZY INSANE OUT OF THIS WORLD profits 2 years ago with all these "EXOTIC MORTGAGES". If the lenders are going bankrupt, let them go bankrupt. they were stupid to lend money to people that were not qualified. Also, sue the Brokers that originated the loans, they are more at fault then everyone else... I heard stories on my neigherhood that Brokers were "BAKING" Tax Returns, Pay Stubs to prove that people had income. I heard a story about a girl she was cleaning houses making around $500 a week with a $4k mortgage. The broker counted the RENTAL as a possible Income, what about if the apartment is unoccupied? who pays the difference? This is a bunch of bologna with all these checks. I say the best way out of a recession is to say everything is great. its amazing about all these psychological factors that are part of our daily numbers. Too many futures and this will happend type of story. I say stop saying we are in a recession every 15 minutes in the news and things will get back to normal instead of taxing the middle-class..

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